welcome to the board, I am new also,
this is a very supportive group
frank
first i would like to thank you all for your courage to tell the truth about " the truth" and watchtower, and by helping ones like my family get so much information about witnesses.. just a quick introduction: we came to canada from yugoslavia 12 years ago and two years after we were baptized as a jws.
because of that , our relatives in canada shunned us for betraying ortodox faith .
now 10 years later we are shunned by our jw "friends" even thou we are not disfellowshiped nor did we disassociated ourselves.after reading information on this board about un, paedophilia and inhumane treatment of many who just did not agree with some practices, we just couldn`t go to meetings anymore.
welcome to the board, I am new also,
this is a very supportive group
frank
yep, you heard me right - i'm going back to the kingdom hall.
my reason for going back is a very simple one.
recently, after i evicted the book study from my mother's home, some of the jw's came to pick up the chairs.
iiz2cool
You are a big person;set the expample for them on how an "open minded" superior thinking individual does things.
good show!
frank
yep, you heard me right - i'm going back to the kingdom hall.
my reason for going back is a very simple one.
recently, after i evicted the book study from my mother's home, some of the jw's came to pick up the chairs.
so, i'm looking through some booklets at school (college, mind you) about sex and abstinence and all that good stuff.
seems like the department of health really promotes just holding hands and smiling at each other as opposed to mind blowing orgasms.
this got me wondering.
Bradley,
the fact is that sex between two people is another form of expression. Whether short term or long term, if you are trying to have a baby or just to have fun---it is the ultimate form of physical expression. You should never feel guilty about it. You will know when you are ready and when it is right. HOWEVER--you should know all the consequences before you proceed.
If you are going to experiment, please be careful. AIDS is a serious consequence these days and I presume the secular colleges are promoting abstinence , not for any moral reason, but to avoid the result of AIDS.
I am delighted to hear that you are pursuing higher education, it is good. When I grew up in the JWs, it was highly discouraged. I completed college any way and am no longer in that religion.
keep you mind open and keep askiing questions.
frank
a friend who you can turn to,.
when the chips are down, .
who is always there for you.. who accepts who you are and what you are made from.. what kipling called the thousandth man.. one man in a thousand, solomon says,.
to blondies comment: it is not corny at all. I am a husband and I sincerely hope my wife feels that way about me.
Frank
three sons left home, went out on their own and prospered.
getting back together, they discussed the gifts they were able to give their elderly mother.
the first said, "i built a big house for our mother.
hey wordlygirl ( great moniker!)
funny joke! Only one who has quoted many scripture and verse can fully appreciate the humor!
Frank
a friend who you can turn to,.
when the chips are down, .
who is always there for you.. who accepts who you are and what you are made from.. what kipling called the thousandth man.. one man in a thousand, solomon says,.
lainey
it is very supportive that you each have one another to rely on.
It is difficult to break away from this religion. Having a support network of friends and family helps!
best of luck
regards
Frank
btw don't miss another good story about cassies willy on my first post.. .
my former po.. when i was about 10. the po in our congregation was about 45-50 and very friendly to all the young boys and girls at the hall.. he used to always pick us up, lift our shirts and tickle our bellys, and everyone always thought he was so good with children.. .
i clearly remember one instance when he was tickling me at the book study in the living room, when everyone else was in the kitchen, having some coffee and biscuits.. .
hi lainey,
welcome to the board. I am new too. From"across the pond" in NY
I am sorry to hear you had such a nasty experience. And condolences on your fathers passing. My dad passed in March.
Yes, as previously mentioned, be careful what you post. As a professional ( you mentioned you are a doctor) you have certain liabilities. Glad to hear you got your education in order despite being JW! I did the same, but have left the JW s 20 years ago.
Never looked back and never regretted.
Keep up your good work!
Frank
i keep reading posts from people who "need" to get their family members out of the wts.
look, a few background points: .
1) i'm out and have been for 17 years.
Anyone who is strongly in "the Truth" will never listen to ANYTHING any one of us trys to say.
We can only go about with our lives and accept them the way they are. ( close loved ones) The others can be "replaced" with new friends.
The best way to deal with them ( in my experience) is to show them that we are living normal, happy, well adjusted lives, WITHOUT THEM OR THOSE BELIEFS
frank
i well known,how easy is to make mistakes,many time you do not relized until the damage is done.i notice,on this board the many reasons why some of the writers,fill the way they do and i am sorry for what as happen to them.
do you belive parents do not have reasons too to forgiving they children?to forget even for us parents can be very hard,do not worry about that,is the same fillings,the same regreats,the same hope you always dream your kids to be,special.
maybe,some dream, almost dare to have the perfect child.we know,that can not be.to be the perfect parents is impossible as to have the special child.there are things that a mom can cry but not solution is avalable,can you always blame your mom for the wrong things you did and that can not be different ?
kelpie, you said it all. I agree with you. life is too short to not forgive
I forgave my parents for raising me as a JW. I understand that they did what they did, because at the time it was what they thought was best for me.
I do not doubt their love for me. As I am a parent now, I fully understand. And yes, my kids say mean things to me all the time. The love is unconditional . Jws do not have a monopoly on that.
frank